![]() I'd say going out of your way to make snide & erroneous remarks e.g. In what world is that not contributing to the conversations? Again you not agreeing or simply not liking what someone has to say doesn't qualify. This topic discussion is literally based on the topic of who would win between Oliva & Doppo and I plainly gave my reasons why I believe Oliva would lose. Apart from being a very impressive showman he has no major victories. Whether you want to see it as a fight or a contest Oliva still easily lost. El señor Oliva está vivo, no está muerto pero ha sido derrotado. He is known as 'Shobun the Badman' (, Kyjin Shobun ). He hardly speaks Japanese and is mainly silent. He is an user of Iai Kenpo and an unbeaten fighter of the Chinese underground area hired by Kaiou Kaku to make the Chinese team. If Doppo was American, would you have the same victim diatrib ? Or… maybe you would suddenly realize characters are much more than a nationality that is completely irrelevant to their strength level (cf most of the foreigners being stronger than the japaneses as soon as you don’t count the Hanmas, who themselves are outsiders and the MC as well as the main villain) Shobun Ron (, Ron Shobun, Chinese pinyin: Lng Sh-Wn) is a fictional character from manga series of Baki. In his fight with Biscuit Oliva he put both of his hands in his pocket but. He lost against yujiro (“Japanese”), shibukawa (Japanese), katsumi (japanese) and musashi (Japanese). However, hell not hesitate to use a grande during hand-to-hand combat if. Oliva was the strongest left.Īlso, want to know a fun thing ? Doppo also never won against a Japanese character as well, until the sumo arc. He already had more fights than most of the characters from the main cast.Īnd as again, the only top tier characters he fought are the main character Baki (you also forgot to mention it's a very intense fight) and the main villain Yujiro (who btfo everyone with ease anyway) as well as Sukune, who hardcounter him and HAVE to be hyped, because you don't hype -anymore- someone by making him beat doppo, shibukawa or whoever else, and literally everyone from the gang got humiliated in the last arc. Well, we could have a pickle vs oliva or a musashi vs oliva but this is not Oliva Dou. Oliva simply has no major wins against any top tier characters in general ![]() ![]() You are downvoted because you bring nothing to the discussion. You are just grasping for straws just to prove your victim complex about Itagaki having a preference for japaneses. If you count their handshake as a “fight” then you could also say shibukawa defeated Musashi (which felt victim to the same trick even worse than oliva) and I’m pretty sure everyone who ever read Baki would ask you to stop bullshiting. He had ine fucked up wrist which absolutely unfazed him. While biscuit on the other hand doesn’t really have much speed feats I mean he was said to be faster then the eye can track but ohma and the fang are faster then that. The entire « fight » with oliva and shibukawa is oliva fucking around and doing a full-force one handed throw against shibukawa while not having any knowledge of aiki. BISCUIT OLIVA vs JULIUS RHIENHOLD who will win I’ll answer that for but I warn you it’s long. Oliva was also easily defeated by Shibukawa.twice, making him 0 for 5 ![]()
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